Jan Gruber is an aging biologist at the National University of Singapore, in the same NUS longevity group as Brian Kennedy. He works on two of the field’s hardest problems at once: how to measure aging, and how to slow it.
On the measuring side, he builds aging clocks — and he is betting they are about to get much better. As the datasets grow, he expects mortality-based, multi-omics clocks to converge, so the different clocks finally give you the same answer. On the moving side, he screens geroprotector drugs in the nematode worm C. elegans, using a clever new readout — the “transcriptional noise” that rises with age — to test hundreds of interventions and score them for synergy before the slow work of lifespan studies.
His method is deliberately staged: reduce the noise in worms first, confirm lifespan and healthspan, then step up to flies and mice. It pairs naturally with the biology of his friend and collaborator Vincenzo Sorrentino — Jan’s screening platform, Vincenzo’s mitochondria and protein-folding questions.
He is also one of the most quietly optimistic people we met. He likes to imagine his own daughter’s generation looking back in disbelief: that there was once a world when people thought aging was completely immutable — a bit, he says, like the world before antibiotics.
The thing to know first is that he is a physicist. That is what he trained as, and it is why he is in this field at all: ageing clocks are classifiers built with machine learning, statistics and linear algebra, and for most of the history of the subject there were no data deep enough to build them on. Now there are. “As a physicist,” he says, “it’s easy to make a contribution in that context.”
He is exacting about what a clock is for. The clocks that will matter, he argues, are the ones that predict mortality — GrimAge, PhenoAge, and the clinical clocks built from blood proteins, lipids and signalling molecules, where the link to future death is already well evidenced. A clock that moves a marker with no bearing on whether you live is not measuring anything worth having. And what it gives you is not a date. It is a probability: your chance of getting through the next decade in good health, and whether an intervention changed it.
The first clock his lab ever built was a lipid clock in nematode worms, using mathematics that came originally from Peter Fedichev, to prove the method worked at all. Then they applied the same tools to a clinical dataset. That is the point he keeps making: the same mathematics runs the whole way up the ladder of biological complexity — worms, flies, mice, people — so you can develop a tool in an animal that lives three weeks and end up using it on a person who lives ninety years.
Ask him whether ageing can really be slowed and he answers with a number rather than a hope: we have been adding about three months of life expectancy a year, for nearly a century. And society has quietly tracked it. Actors in their eighties carry films now; a hundred years ago nobody would have staked a four-year production on one. What has not happened yet, he says, is the interesting part — all of that came from hygiene, nutrition, and treating disease. “I don’t think we have manipulated fundamental biology of aging yet. But that’s the change. That’s the program now.”
He would rather prevent than replace. Given the choice between printing a new kidney and understanding at forty what will fail at seventy, he takes the second every time — though he adds, with the timing of someone who has made the joke before, that if he had kidney failure he would quite like a new one. And he does not only prescribe it. He has taken metformin for a long time, keeps his cholesterol very low, and is openly interested in rapamycin — one of the very few compounds, he says, that works reliably every time he tries it, when many beautifully published ones do not.

We met Jan in Singapore in October 2023, in the NUS longevity group around Brian Kennedy. First on a walk with his collaborator Vincenzo Sorrentino — two friends trading predictions about clocks, worms and drug combinations under the Supertrees — and then sitting down properly, in the lab Marek had just been shown round and had described, to his face, as extremely manual. Jan agreed, cheerfully, and then explained what machine vision is about to do to it.
“Imagine there was a world when people thought aging was completely immutable. It’s a bit like before antibiotics.”
— Jan Gruber, Singapore


“Imagine there was a world when people thought aging was completely immutable. It’s a bit like before antibiotics.”
Jan Gruber · SingaporeIt takes me longer to learn things now than it used to when I was 20… It would be really exciting to have the capacity for learning and endurance that I had when I was 20, but then apply them with the wisdom of the years of experience.
Jan Gruber · on what enhancement actually meansMy prediction is that within a year the different clocks will start to give you the same answer.
Jan GruberTranscription noise really wasn’t possible to measure before — now we can do it in individual animals.
Jan GruberWe have synergy scores now, so we can test drug combinations at quite large scale.
Jan GruberI much rather see, know the processes that lead to kidney failure at 70 and intervene at 40 than to print a new kidney. Although if I had kidney failure, of course, I’d quite like a new one.
Jan Gruber · NUS, October 2023I don’t think we have manipulated fundamental biology of aging yet. But that’s the change. That’s the program now.
Jan GruberI have taken metformin for a long time. I make sure that my cholesterol levels are really low. And I’m very interested in rapamycin.
Jan Gruber · what he does himselfThree things Jan is betting on.
Aging clocks estimate biological age from your biology. Jan expects that as datasets grow, mortality-based clocks built across many omics layers will start to agree — giving a more trustworthy read on whether an intervention is actually working.
“The more successful clocks in the future will be clocks that predict mortality, future death.”
Singapore · from the interviewWith age, gene expression gets noisier — cells drift out of sync. Measuring that rising “transcriptional noise” in individual worms is a fast new way to screen interventions, looking at both the change in signal and the growth in variance.
“Reducing the noise would be a cool first screen — then we confirm the lifespan and healthspan down the line.”
Singapore · from the interviewSingle drugs rarely move aging much; combinations might. Jan uses module-based synergy scores to test interventions together at scale in worms, then steps up — lifespan and healthspan, then flies and mice — keeping the winners.
“An individual drug might only extend lifespan by about 10%, but you can combine them to get much larger benefits.”
Singapore · from the interviewJan Gruber is a physicist working on the biology of ageing in the Department of Biochemistry at the National University of Singapore. This page draws on the walk with Vincenzo Sorrentino and on the interview that followed it, in October 2023.
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Two conversations, Singapore, October 2023 — the walk under the Supertrees with Vincenzo Sorrentino, and the interview afterwards. Cleaned of hesitation only; nothing inside a quotation has been reworded.
Jan Gruber“I wonder whether Alek will look back at it and say: imagine there was a world when people thought aging was completely immutable. It’s a bit like before antibiotics. And it’s amazing how fast this is progressing today compared to a few years ago.”
Jan Gruber“One of the big things is clocks. Mortality-based clocks will grow on the datasets — there’ll be datasets that let us combine all the omics features to mortality in a way we can’t right now. My prediction is that in a year’s time this will start to converge, that the different clocks give you the same answer.”
Jan Gruber“The transcription-noise thing is one of the things that really wasn’t possible in the past — now we can do individual animals. You get the change in the overall signal, and more importantly the increase in variance. Reducing that noise would be a cool first screen; then we confirm lifespan and healthspan down the line.”
Vincenzo Sorrentino“Do you think we could test combination interventions — genetic and pharmacological?”
Jan Gruber“We have module-based synergy scores now, so if you have something quicker than just doing lifespans, we can work at quite large scale. Start from the screen on large numbers, then go down to lifespan and healthspan, and maybe flies and mice.”
And from the interview — a physicist on what a clock is for.
Jan Gruber“One thing where that’s currently really coming into the fore is the fact that mathematical tools are really important for an area of research that’s very hot, which is clocks. So the attempts at making classifiers using machine learning, AI, statistics, linear algebra, really to make predictors of aging — to measure biological aging, to predict future outcomes, stratify cohorts of people. And so in the past there were really not much data sources to do this. And now we’re coming together where we have a lot of really deep data sources and the tools to analyze them. And so as a physicist, you know, it’s easy to make a contribution in that context.”
Jan Gruber“Fundamentally, I think the more successful clocks in the future will be clocks that predict mortality, future death. And there are epigenetics clocks that do this, like GrimAge and PhenoAge. And then there are lots of clinical clocks that can do this… You can build clinical clocks that predict future mortality quite well, and there’s very good data for this… For that to be meaningful, that reversal has to be related to future mortality. It has to tell you mortality, morbidity, disease, and death. It’s not enough to just reverse some sort of marker that doesn’t really map to future health.”
Jan Gruber“You’re not gonna get a specific death date… It’s more data of that type, where you would say your chance to surviving the next decade is 20%, 50%, 80%. And there are always people who will beat the odds, but on average this will be correct. And so if you can reverse these numbers, if you can change your biological age to be younger or advance more slowly, you basically have a larger chance of surviving the next decade or two decades in good health. And I think a marker that would tell you this would be useful for making your own health decisions.”
Jan Gruber“The first clock we ever made was actually a lipid-based clock in nematode worms. And that was essentially to try out some of the math that we wanted to use, which comes from Peter Fedichev originally. And we were playing with this and proved that this worked in the nematode worms. And later we applied this to a clinical dataset… So you can develop the tools in a simple invertebrate model, and then you can apply it to mouse or flies, and you can later on apply it to people. And it’s the same tools that apply across the biological complexity.”
Jan Gruber“We have been and are continuing to extend lifespan by about 3 months a year in humans, and we’ve done this for the last nearly 100 years… And it’s interesting because I do think society is just tracking that. So for instance, we have a lot of actors today who are in their 80s who are still in the media and seen as very viable actors and stars, and carry movies. And I think that really wasn’t the case 100 years ago. An 80-year-old person would not have been considered somebody you would invest a four-year movie project on, because it would just be too risky.”
Jan Gruber“The truth is that we have been building tools to extend healthy lifespan. I don’t think we have manipulated fundamental biology of aging yet, but that’s the change… Diseases and disease prevention, disease treatment, nutrition, hygiene — those things we have figured out over the last century. But we haven’t really worked on manipulating the basic biology of aging. And I think this is the program now.”
Jan Gruber“There’s really amazing gene therapy tools now which are much safer than in the past and much less likely to give you some aggressive cancer. I think that’s really exciting. And of course there’s also a way of thinking about it where you just make spare parts — when you can deal with consequences of aging more efficiently. I just always think prevention’s better than cure. So I much rather see, know the processes that lead to kidney failure at 70 and intervene at 40 than to print a new kidney. Although if I had kidney failure, of course, I’d quite like a new one, right?”
Jan Gruber“For me, the ultimate enhancement is to maintain the performance of youth for longer… If you look at raw intelligence and raw memory, in its highest, in young people in their 20s — now, you make up for it by having crystallized solution strategies. But I can definitely tell you it takes me longer to learn things now than it used to when I was 20. Again, I can hide that fact essentially by having better strategies, but it would be really exciting to have the capacity for learning and endurance, for instance, as an academic, that I had when I was 20, but then apply them with the wisdom, one would hope, of the years of experience. That for me in itself is already a radical enhancement.”
Jan Gruber“One of the big things in the field is, of course, in every field with a deep literature, that there’s a huge amount of information out there that most of us aren’t aware of. Old papers from even 30, 40 years ago that might be relevant to what we’re doing today. And sometimes you find these old papers and you go like, oh my God, people did this already then. It’s just fascinating to think what you can do if you read all the literature and you’re simultaneously aware of everything everybody has ever said about anything.”
Jan Gruber“You’ve seen our lab and you’ve seen what we do, and you commented that it is extremely manual, and it is in many ways… With tools like machine vision, and the data processing tools that can look at movies and pictures, you can automate things that would be completely unautomatable and manual in the very recent past… Machine vision for lifespan studies can take half the work away… If you can make those things automatic, you would hope that the time that you save is spent instead to think more deeply about the experiments you’re doing, because you maybe spend less time actually doing them.”
Jan Gruber“One of the strengths of academia is that it’s possible to give people a lot of freedom to explore ideas that don’t have to be immediately and short-term financially returning money. And I think if you look to the history of science, a lot of the really disruptive, big, life-changing and world-changing inventions are not coming from people going and deciding that they’re gonna make a better toothbrush… The history of science, I think, would say that people who thought that what they’re doing was pure basic science and would never have an application were sometimes catastrophically, or miraculously, wrong about that — and invented things which had huge impact on the world.”
Jan Gruber“Early and proactive interventions against mechanisms of disease progression that we already understand is actually really important… I think we can probably intervene earlier than we do and more proactively than we do, and essentially avoid deterioration of function and structure way more than we do today… These are things which I would do right now, and I think there’s ample evidence that this is beneficial and we should do it now. So for instance, I have taken metformin for a long time. I make sure that my cholesterol levels are really low. And I’m very interested in rapamycin in this regard.”
Jan Gruber“There are a few drugs that work quite reliably in all model organisms. Rapamycin is one of them. I’ve tried many things, and there’s lots of variability in lifespan effects with compounds that have really beautiful publications, and then you try them and they might not quite work as well in your lab.”
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