Founder · Longevity & biohacking clinic
Molecular biotechnology, clinics and the data problem · London
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Kasia Redman is one of 100+ experts in the Live Beyond Project — a father & son quest for longevity.
Discover Live Beyond →Kasia Redman trained in bioscience and molecular biotechnology, and spent her career split between research and the commercial end of drug development and technology commercialisation — the business of getting a therapy out of a lab and into a person. About twelve years ago a project with a stem cell laboratory pulled her toward regenerative medicine, and she moved from biotech into longevity as an entrepreneur.
She founded one of London’s first longevity and biohacking clinics, with a deliberately unglamorous premise: bring the experts, the technologies and the therapies under one roof, and make them more accessible and more affordable than they are scattered across a dozen specialists.
When Marek put it to her that there is no such thing as a real longevity clinic yet — that you should walk in at sixty and walk out biologically forty — she declined the premise. Before you can define a longevity clinic, you have to define longevity. The popular version is living forever and staying beautiful. The achievable version, today, is extending healthspan, delaying the onset of the diseases of civilisation, and holding on to function and performance for as long as possible. Lifespan comes after that, not instead of it.
She is equally unwilling to accept that timidity is the field’s problem. Research follows funding, and funding follows priorities set by donors, investors and expected returns. When the regulatory framework and the business trajectory align, the science moves. Her other concern is subtler and more practical: we now generate enormous quantities of data — health records, omics, wearables, lifestyle testing — and we simply do not have enough people able to combine it into a usable picture. That, she thinks, is where AI earns its place.
Kasia hosted us at her home in London rather than at a clinic or a conference room — which by that point in the journey mattered more than it sounds. Marek told her openly that, being near the end of the quest, he had started allowing himself to be more persistent, and that he was going to poke her a little. She held her ground throughout, and the conversation is better for it: this is the interview where somebody pushes back.
“I think we need to define the crazy science. It’s risky to say crazy science — because we don’t want to be perceived as people who make Frankensteins.”
— Kasia Redman, London“Before we define a longevity clinic, we need to define what longevity is at this stage.”
Kasia Redman · LondonThere’s a perception that longevity is all about living forever and being beautiful and young forever. What we’re trying to achieve is to extend healthspan.
Kasia RedmanIn the past we had adventurous explorers who ventured into the unknown and discovered undiscovered lands. This is a similar journey.
Kasia RedmanIt’s not necessarily about being crazy. It’s financial constraints and funding constraints. The donors, the investors, the returns.
Kasia RedmanWe have access to a lot of testing and a lot of data — but we don’t have enough experts to combine all of that information into a viable diagnosis.
Kasia RedmanFrom our conversation in London — what a longevity clinic can honestly claim, where the real constraint sits, and the gap between the data we collect and the people who can read it.
She won’t let the word float. Today’s honest claim is extending healthspan and delaying the diseases of civilisation — holding function and performance. Lifespan extension follows once that is genuinely achieved, and not before.
“Extend our functionality and performance for as long as possible — and then progress.”
London · from the interviewMarek argued the field should throw off its chains. She agreed with the ambition and rejected the diagnosis: scientists have always wanted to venture out. What actually decides the direction of research is who is funding it and what returns they expect.
“When the regulatory framework and the business trajectory align, longevity research will see more success.”
London · from the interviewHer most practical warning. Between medical records, omics, wearables and lifestyle testing, a person can now be measured exhaustively — and there are almost no clinicians able to integrate all of it into a decision. She sees AI as the only realistic way to close that gap.
“The discipline is very vast — and we don’t have the experts.”
London · from the interviewThe video interview is coming. Recorded interviews go live after the launch of the film & series Live Beyond.
Selected passages from our conversation with Kasia Redman — London, July 2024. Lightly edited for readability.
Kasia Redman“My academic and professional background is in bioscience and molecular biotechnology, and all of my career has been either in research or on the commercial side of drug development and technology commercialisation. At a certain point I thought there was an opportunity to introduce certain therapies and solutions to consumers, and I became an entrepreneur. That’s how my longevity adventure started.”
Kasia Redman“The journey started by personal interest in regenerative therapies, about ten or twelve years ago — a project with a stem cell lab, and that’s how I was exposed to the potential of stem cell therapies. The idea behind the clinic was to bring experts, technologies and solutions all under one roof, and make them more accessible and more affordable to consumers.”
Marek Piotrowski“People say we don’t really have longevity clinics yet — that a true one is when you walk in at sixty and come out with a cell age of forty.”
Kasia Redman“Before we define a longevity clinic, I think we need to define what longevity is at this stage. There’s a perception that longevity is all about living forever and being beautiful and young forever. But what we are trying to achieve is to extend our healthspan and delay the onset of the diseases of civilisation — to extend our functionality and performance for as long as possible. And once that’s achieved, we can progress to extending lifespan.”
Marek Piotrowski“I think a lot of scientists try to stay in the safe zone, and not really jump high for the crazy science that can move the needle.”
Kasia Redman“I think we need to define the crazy science. It’s risky to say crazy science, because we don’t want to be perceived as people who make Frankensteins. Regenerative medicine, biotech and biologics have been progressing medicine for a number of years, and longevity research is just an extension of that. As soon as we have the right targets and the right regulatory frameworks, we’ll be closer to a significant change in human lifespan.”
Kasia Redman“In the past we had adventurous explorers who ventured into the unknown world and discovered lands that were undiscovered. I think this is a similar journey — we are venturing out from a safe space. Scientists probably always had that desire. But the way research is organised, it’s very dependent on funding, and funding depends on which projects are a priority. So it’s not necessarily about being crazy — it’s financial and funding constraints.”
Marek Piotrowski“When I visited a few institutes they said the donors require them to focus on things the donors can embrace with their minds.”
Kasia Redman“The donors, the investors, the returns. There’s a regulatory framework and a business trajectory for each of those therapies — and when those two align, longevity research will see more success in an applied environment.”
Kasia Redman“One of the biggest contributors to progress is the use of AI — which is probably obvious to say. A number of the industry’s challenges would be solvable with AI tools: progressing drug discovery and optimisation, clinical trials, speeding that up and making it more economically viable. And from the consumer side, we have access to a lot of testing and a lot of data, but we don’t have enough experts in the field. The discipline is very vast — healthcare records, omics data, wearable data, lifestyle testing. We don’t have the experts to combine all of that information and make a viable diagnosis. Hence AI.”
Kasia Redman“You’re doing a great favour to the longevity community and to humanity, because one of the challenges of the industry is a lack of understanding and a lack of communication — and that leads to a lack of attention and focus. This project will put longevity more on the map of our attention, clarify a lot of misunderstanding, and be a huge educational contribution to science and to society.”
More passages from the full interview will be published here.
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